Poker Pot Committed
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*Poker Pot Committed Definition
*Poker Pot CommittedNeil Gibson
Pot See main article: pot pot-committed More often in the context of a no limit game; the situation where one can no longer fold because the size of the pot is so large compared to the size of one’s stack. Pot-limit See main article: pot limit pot odds See main article: pot odds pre-flop. A player is pot committed in poker if the pot is so big that he is getting great pot odds so that he is obligated to call if someone puts him all-in. This means that the pot odds he is getting are so high that he is priced in, given his hand and his opponent’s presumed range of hands, and it would be a mathematical error to fold. In no-limit hold’em, when you are pot-committed. ABOUT CARDPLAYER, THE POKER AUTHORITY CardPlayer.com is the world’s oldest and most well respected poker magazine and online poker guide. Pot commitment is a familiar topic to just about any half knowledgeable poker player. At its most basic level, pot commitment means you deem the pot is offering sufficient odds, at that instance, taking into account the strength of your hand, that you will be willing to play for the rest of your chips, if need be.
“I had to call… I was pot committed!”
One of the more commonly uttered justifications for suspect decisions in poker is for players to claim they were “pot committed” in a hand when in they really weren’t. It’s a concept many think they understand, but sometimes they misapply it or are mistaken. But it’s one well worth learning, particularly when playing “big bet” games like no-limit hold’em and pot-limit Omaha in which bets on successive streets can quickly transform a small skirmish into major melee. The Point of No Return
Generally speaking, being pot committed means having arrived at a point in a poker hand at which folding to any bet or raise has become an incorrect play. Such a situation is determined by pot odds and how those odds compare to your chances of winning a hand.
It isn’t exactly the same, but being pot committed is sometimes likened to reaching a kind of “point of no return” such as might arise other contexts. Take the situation of opposing factions building toward conflict who make declarations suggesting a particular action or advancement necessarily removes peaceful alternatives. For example, when Julius Caesar led a legion southward toward Rome and crossed the Rubicon river, that action signaled an inexorable commitment to war, with the phrase “crossing the Rubicon” later coming to represent just such a commitment.
Military strategists have long discussed the “Rubicon” example and the mindset it represents, in particular the way committing to such an action necessarily reduces options going forward, including the one to avoid conflict altogether. A possible consequence of such thinking can be false rationalizations to support the decision after the fact — that is, after crossing the “Rubicon” (or some other “point of no return”) to avoid considering alternatives thereafter that might still exist but have been ruled out by the earlier-declared commitment.
In poker, players sometimes mistakenly describe themselves as having been “pot committed” as a justification for going all the way with a hand when they didn’t actually have to do so. Betting chips early in a hand sometimes makes it more difficult for some players to fold later on and concede losing those chips they’ve bet. Thus any bet or raise or call they make becomes justification for committing to battle for a pot to the very end.. even if their opponent has assembled a much stronger “army” against them.
But just as in military strategy, it is generally not desirable in poker to seek situations in which you lessen your available options. Players in tournaments prefer amassing big stacks precisely because of the flexibility it gives them when playing hands, whereas those with short stacks find their options reduced. The same goes for cash games, in which those with bigger stacks can be more creative than those with less. One shouldn’t, then, actively look to become pot committed unless the situation is favorable for doing so — e.g., when holding a strong hand that rates to be better than an opponent’s, or when facing pot odds that make committing the rest of one’s stack correct.A Math Problem in Which All Options Have Been Subtracted Away But One
To describe an extreme example, say you lose a big hand early in a full ring (nine-handed) no-limit hold’em tournament that knocks you back to just 1,000 chips at a time when the blinds are 400/800 with a 100 ante. Making matters worse, on the following hand you are in the big blind, meaning you only have 100 left after posting the ante and big blind. A player in middle position then raises and all fold around.
The action is on you. And you hold .
Here is an obvious example of being pot committed. The blinds and antes total 2,100, and after your opponent raises you have but 100 left to call, making the effective stacks between the two of you just 100. That means you are facing calling 100 to win a pot of 2,200 — that’s pot odds of 22-to-1.
Even if your opponent holds and has an 88.3% chance of beating you (according to the PokerNews Odds Calculator), that’s still just over a 7-to-1 advantage. In other words, mathematically speaking, you’re “priced in” to call no matter what two cards your opponent has. You are, as they say, pot committed.
Of course, you don’t have to call. The option to fold is still available to you, even if doing so would be foolhardy given how that would leave you even less likely to recover. But since you genuinely are pot committed, you should.
That’s a simple and relatively rare example, though. More often your decisions will be less cut-and-dry, although understanding how to calculate pot odds and thus determine whether or not committing your last chips is mathematically correct will help a great deal when making them.Having Committed Chips ≠ Being Pot Committed
Do note, however, that being pot committed has to do with pot odds and how they compare to your chances of winning, not with how much of your stack you have already committed in pursuit of winning a pot. In the above example, you are not pot committed because you have already committed 900 chips (the big blind and ante) and have but 100 left. You are pot committed because of the pot odds being offered to you and your chances of winning the hand with .
It is a common mistake to consider committing a high percentage of chips in one’s stack already as causing one to be pot committed and thus without options when it comes to deciding what to do with the rest. Those two circumstances often coincide, but you shouldn’t believe yourself obligated to put the last of your stack in just because you have already bet a certain amount before.
Again to fashion a somewhat obvious example, let’s say I play a hand recklessly and keep calling an opponent’s bets all of the way down to the river as I crazily chase a straight draw. I start the hand with 1,000 chips holding and call an opponent’s raise to 200. The flop comes and I call another bet of 300. The turn is the , my opponent bets 400, and I call again, leaving myself just 100 chips. Then the river brings the and my opponent bets one more time, enough to put me all in.
I’ve played the hand miserably, spewing 900 chips from my starting stack of 1,000 chasing that straight. But calling the last 100 here would be even worse. I’m not pot committed because of the chips I’ve already bet. I might be pot committed if I thought my chance of winning the hand if I called were better than the approximately 20-to-1 pot odds I was facing — but with just five-high, I don’t.
Sometimes we do want to be pot committed, say in a tournament in which we are down to a short stack and finally get dealt a premium hand like or . Then we want to get all of our chips in the middle, and thus might bet in a way that increases the likelihood we’ll be getting the remainder of our stack in sooner than later.
But generally speaking, unless you know you are getting favorable pot odds given the hand you hold and it’s chances of being best, being pot committed isn’t desirable. You want to have the option to fold available to you, especially in a tournament when doing so enables you to continue.
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*Tagscash game strategytournament strategypot oddsno-limit hold’emWhat is pot commitment?
Pot commitment is a familiar topic to just about any half knowledgeable poker player.
At its most basic level, pot commitment means you deem the pot is offering sufficient odds, at that instance, taking into account the strength of your hand, that you will be willing to play for the rest of your chips, if need be.
Whether you actually want to play for the rest of your chips, of course, is another matter entirely. Commit the fish
When we have strong hands, i.e. strong enough hands that were all our chips to go in the middle, we would in all likelihood be favorite, then we obviously favor a situation where this outcome happens.
In a fantasy world, we could bet certain amounts and every time our opponents would call every time. The real world is different however, these days, most players have some idea at least how to play poker.
Still, occasionally, we can be blessed with a player who doesn’t read the board and/or game texture very well, effectively just playing their own hand and not taking into account what you might have.
If you have a strong hand against these guys, you can bet it big on every street, getting all your opponents chips on or before the river, since if they have a reasonable holding, there’s a high chance you’ll get them to pay you off. Commit smart players
Against smart or even average players you may have to do something different. Hand reading abilities and ability to figure out your opponents tendencies and thus likely reactions are vital towards getting the best poker result.
Let’s take a look at a quick example of how you would go about getting players to commit to the pot when you flop a hidden monster.
$1-$2 NL holdem. 6-max. Your stack $316. You have been fairly active and have been looked up when you held a combination of both good hands, pure bluffs and drawing hands already, so people will be finding it difficult to pin you down to what hand you might have at any one time, exactly what you want to be engineering in the minds of your opponents!
A straightforward player with about $180, raises 3 big blinds UTG, you have 6s6h in cutoff and elect to call his raise. Big blind also calls. Pot is $19. With a hand like 66, basically you are looking to hit your set on the flop or be done with the hand if you miss and someone bets.
Flop brings Kd 6c 2s. Bingo! Big blind checks. UTG bets $15, a bet, that makes it look like at least that he’s representing the King. Now if he was a very aggressive player who could barrel 2 or even 3 streets with little or nothing, you might think about slowplaying your set of sixes here as a raise would be a warning sign to all but the most maniacal of players.
You could still make a case for just calling this player on the flop, as if he has top pair top kicker he might very well continue to fire believing he’s value betting, however if your reading of him is even slightly off, say if he’s got a hand Like KQ or KJ, he might slow down on the turn, or even if he does have the hand you are hoping AK, if he’s even tighter than you think he is, he might still slow down on the turn.
Therefore in order to get him wedded to the pot, overall, it’s best to get money in there now, and make it more likely that he and you end up stacking him. So how much should you make the raise for on the flop. Your opponent has $159 left.
So $34 already in pot, if you raise him another $28 that makes the pot $90 if he calls. Leaving him $131. A standard enough half pot size bet on the turn of $45 on turn makes a pot of $180.
If he calls this, which seems likely, if he has top pair top kicker, with less than half a pot sized bet in chips on the river, you will have effectively pot committed him, and get all his chips, all achieved by your judicious decision making, particularly on the flop, as your small raise here, sealed his doom! Having a commitment phobia
How about situations where you have a good hand but not so good that you are ’pot committed’. How do you avoid being pot committed?
Getting back to Ace King and to a lesser extent Ace Queen, raising with these type of hands is pretty standard play in position i.e. either when you are first to play or raising limpers or indeed perhaps even re-raising when in position.
There is an argument for not re-raising from the blinds and merely calling, that way you have a good disguised hand, as no one will put you on AK or AQ, because surely you would have re-raised with them.
By not re-raising preflop it can make post flop play easier. If you flop a good hand like top pair top kicker, then if facing bets it’ll be far more likely that someone is value betting you thinking they are ahead, or pure bluffing you, rather than someone betting because they have put you on AK, and hoping that you can’t lay it down like the previous example, since there is little chance that they can put you on AK in such a spot. Poker Pot Committed Definition
Poker hand precedence. Therefore, although you have given up on the chance to take the pot down preflop, and you might have to give up on the flop or turn, if you don’t hit anything, you have also gained the benefit of reducing the chances of being pot committed. Slow down
Other ways to avoid getting pot committed are to slow down on the turn especially when you have position.
That way if you have a good but not great hand, your opponent might have folded his worse hands than yours on the turn anyway. But if he had being trying to trap you, when you call his river bet as you will almost definitely will do, you minimize the amount you could have lost in the hand, and should he be value betting the river light or pure bluffing, you’ll earn more than you would have done should you have bet the turn and got him to fold.
So it’s a win-win situation by being appropriately cautious. Can’t escape pot commitment all the time
In no limit poker, getting into uncomfortable situations, where you are pot committed, but not so enthused about it, are unavoidable.
As you improve your hand reading and reading of opponents, the amount of times this happens, while never being eliminated, should be reduced. In addition the percentage of times where you are actually ahead in these uncomfortable situations will increase, due to your improved reading of the game. Poker Pot Committed
This will be the case, as you will have managed to escape getting pot committed with second best hands more often, and be getting to pot commitment stage at times when your opponent is actually bluffing or betting light, rather than when he has an actual great hand!
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*Poker Pot Committed Definition
*Poker Pot CommittedNeil Gibson
Pot See main article: pot pot-committed More often in the context of a no limit game; the situation where one can no longer fold because the size of the pot is so large compared to the size of one’s stack. Pot-limit See main article: pot limit pot odds See main article: pot odds pre-flop. A player is pot committed in poker if the pot is so big that he is getting great pot odds so that he is obligated to call if someone puts him all-in. This means that the pot odds he is getting are so high that he is priced in, given his hand and his opponent’s presumed range of hands, and it would be a mathematical error to fold. In no-limit hold’em, when you are pot-committed. ABOUT CARDPLAYER, THE POKER AUTHORITY CardPlayer.com is the world’s oldest and most well respected poker magazine and online poker guide. Pot commitment is a familiar topic to just about any half knowledgeable poker player. At its most basic level, pot commitment means you deem the pot is offering sufficient odds, at that instance, taking into account the strength of your hand, that you will be willing to play for the rest of your chips, if need be.
“I had to call… I was pot committed!”
One of the more commonly uttered justifications for suspect decisions in poker is for players to claim they were “pot committed” in a hand when in they really weren’t. It’s a concept many think they understand, but sometimes they misapply it or are mistaken. But it’s one well worth learning, particularly when playing “big bet” games like no-limit hold’em and pot-limit Omaha in which bets on successive streets can quickly transform a small skirmish into major melee. The Point of No Return
Generally speaking, being pot committed means having arrived at a point in a poker hand at which folding to any bet or raise has become an incorrect play. Such a situation is determined by pot odds and how those odds compare to your chances of winning a hand.
It isn’t exactly the same, but being pot committed is sometimes likened to reaching a kind of “point of no return” such as might arise other contexts. Take the situation of opposing factions building toward conflict who make declarations suggesting a particular action or advancement necessarily removes peaceful alternatives. For example, when Julius Caesar led a legion southward toward Rome and crossed the Rubicon river, that action signaled an inexorable commitment to war, with the phrase “crossing the Rubicon” later coming to represent just such a commitment.
Military strategists have long discussed the “Rubicon” example and the mindset it represents, in particular the way committing to such an action necessarily reduces options going forward, including the one to avoid conflict altogether. A possible consequence of such thinking can be false rationalizations to support the decision after the fact — that is, after crossing the “Rubicon” (or some other “point of no return”) to avoid considering alternatives thereafter that might still exist but have been ruled out by the earlier-declared commitment.
In poker, players sometimes mistakenly describe themselves as having been “pot committed” as a justification for going all the way with a hand when they didn’t actually have to do so. Betting chips early in a hand sometimes makes it more difficult for some players to fold later on and concede losing those chips they’ve bet. Thus any bet or raise or call they make becomes justification for committing to battle for a pot to the very end.. even if their opponent has assembled a much stronger “army” against them.
But just as in military strategy, it is generally not desirable in poker to seek situations in which you lessen your available options. Players in tournaments prefer amassing big stacks precisely because of the flexibility it gives them when playing hands, whereas those with short stacks find their options reduced. The same goes for cash games, in which those with bigger stacks can be more creative than those with less. One shouldn’t, then, actively look to become pot committed unless the situation is favorable for doing so — e.g., when holding a strong hand that rates to be better than an opponent’s, or when facing pot odds that make committing the rest of one’s stack correct.A Math Problem in Which All Options Have Been Subtracted Away But One
To describe an extreme example, say you lose a big hand early in a full ring (nine-handed) no-limit hold’em tournament that knocks you back to just 1,000 chips at a time when the blinds are 400/800 with a 100 ante. Making matters worse, on the following hand you are in the big blind, meaning you only have 100 left after posting the ante and big blind. A player in middle position then raises and all fold around.
The action is on you. And you hold .
Here is an obvious example of being pot committed. The blinds and antes total 2,100, and after your opponent raises you have but 100 left to call, making the effective stacks between the two of you just 100. That means you are facing calling 100 to win a pot of 2,200 — that’s pot odds of 22-to-1.
Even if your opponent holds and has an 88.3% chance of beating you (according to the PokerNews Odds Calculator), that’s still just over a 7-to-1 advantage. In other words, mathematically speaking, you’re “priced in” to call no matter what two cards your opponent has. You are, as they say, pot committed.
Of course, you don’t have to call. The option to fold is still available to you, even if doing so would be foolhardy given how that would leave you even less likely to recover. But since you genuinely are pot committed, you should.
That’s a simple and relatively rare example, though. More often your decisions will be less cut-and-dry, although understanding how to calculate pot odds and thus determine whether or not committing your last chips is mathematically correct will help a great deal when making them.Having Committed Chips ≠ Being Pot Committed
Do note, however, that being pot committed has to do with pot odds and how they compare to your chances of winning, not with how much of your stack you have already committed in pursuit of winning a pot. In the above example, you are not pot committed because you have already committed 900 chips (the big blind and ante) and have but 100 left. You are pot committed because of the pot odds being offered to you and your chances of winning the hand with .
It is a common mistake to consider committing a high percentage of chips in one’s stack already as causing one to be pot committed and thus without options when it comes to deciding what to do with the rest. Those two circumstances often coincide, but you shouldn’t believe yourself obligated to put the last of your stack in just because you have already bet a certain amount before.
Again to fashion a somewhat obvious example, let’s say I play a hand recklessly and keep calling an opponent’s bets all of the way down to the river as I crazily chase a straight draw. I start the hand with 1,000 chips holding and call an opponent’s raise to 200. The flop comes and I call another bet of 300. The turn is the , my opponent bets 400, and I call again, leaving myself just 100 chips. Then the river brings the and my opponent bets one more time, enough to put me all in.
I’ve played the hand miserably, spewing 900 chips from my starting stack of 1,000 chasing that straight. But calling the last 100 here would be even worse. I’m not pot committed because of the chips I’ve already bet. I might be pot committed if I thought my chance of winning the hand if I called were better than the approximately 20-to-1 pot odds I was facing — but with just five-high, I don’t.
Sometimes we do want to be pot committed, say in a tournament in which we are down to a short stack and finally get dealt a premium hand like or . Then we want to get all of our chips in the middle, and thus might bet in a way that increases the likelihood we’ll be getting the remainder of our stack in sooner than later.
But generally speaking, unless you know you are getting favorable pot odds given the hand you hold and it’s chances of being best, being pot committed isn’t desirable. You want to have the option to fold available to you, especially in a tournament when doing so enables you to continue.
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*Tagscash game strategytournament strategypot oddsno-limit hold’emWhat is pot commitment?
Pot commitment is a familiar topic to just about any half knowledgeable poker player.
At its most basic level, pot commitment means you deem the pot is offering sufficient odds, at that instance, taking into account the strength of your hand, that you will be willing to play for the rest of your chips, if need be.
Whether you actually want to play for the rest of your chips, of course, is another matter entirely. Commit the fish
When we have strong hands, i.e. strong enough hands that were all our chips to go in the middle, we would in all likelihood be favorite, then we obviously favor a situation where this outcome happens.
In a fantasy world, we could bet certain amounts and every time our opponents would call every time. The real world is different however, these days, most players have some idea at least how to play poker.
Still, occasionally, we can be blessed with a player who doesn’t read the board and/or game texture very well, effectively just playing their own hand and not taking into account what you might have.
If you have a strong hand against these guys, you can bet it big on every street, getting all your opponents chips on or before the river, since if they have a reasonable holding, there’s a high chance you’ll get them to pay you off. Commit smart players
Against smart or even average players you may have to do something different. Hand reading abilities and ability to figure out your opponents tendencies and thus likely reactions are vital towards getting the best poker result.
Let’s take a look at a quick example of how you would go about getting players to commit to the pot when you flop a hidden monster.
$1-$2 NL holdem. 6-max. Your stack $316. You have been fairly active and have been looked up when you held a combination of both good hands, pure bluffs and drawing hands already, so people will be finding it difficult to pin you down to what hand you might have at any one time, exactly what you want to be engineering in the minds of your opponents!
A straightforward player with about $180, raises 3 big blinds UTG, you have 6s6h in cutoff and elect to call his raise. Big blind also calls. Pot is $19. With a hand like 66, basically you are looking to hit your set on the flop or be done with the hand if you miss and someone bets.
Flop brings Kd 6c 2s. Bingo! Big blind checks. UTG bets $15, a bet, that makes it look like at least that he’s representing the King. Now if he was a very aggressive player who could barrel 2 or even 3 streets with little or nothing, you might think about slowplaying your set of sixes here as a raise would be a warning sign to all but the most maniacal of players.
You could still make a case for just calling this player on the flop, as if he has top pair top kicker he might very well continue to fire believing he’s value betting, however if your reading of him is even slightly off, say if he’s got a hand Like KQ or KJ, he might slow down on the turn, or even if he does have the hand you are hoping AK, if he’s even tighter than you think he is, he might still slow down on the turn.
Therefore in order to get him wedded to the pot, overall, it’s best to get money in there now, and make it more likely that he and you end up stacking him. So how much should you make the raise for on the flop. Your opponent has $159 left.
So $34 already in pot, if you raise him another $28 that makes the pot $90 if he calls. Leaving him $131. A standard enough half pot size bet on the turn of $45 on turn makes a pot of $180.
If he calls this, which seems likely, if he has top pair top kicker, with less than half a pot sized bet in chips on the river, you will have effectively pot committed him, and get all his chips, all achieved by your judicious decision making, particularly on the flop, as your small raise here, sealed his doom! Having a commitment phobia
How about situations where you have a good hand but not so good that you are ’pot committed’. How do you avoid being pot committed?
Getting back to Ace King and to a lesser extent Ace Queen, raising with these type of hands is pretty standard play in position i.e. either when you are first to play or raising limpers or indeed perhaps even re-raising when in position.
There is an argument for not re-raising from the blinds and merely calling, that way you have a good disguised hand, as no one will put you on AK or AQ, because surely you would have re-raised with them.
By not re-raising preflop it can make post flop play easier. If you flop a good hand like top pair top kicker, then if facing bets it’ll be far more likely that someone is value betting you thinking they are ahead, or pure bluffing you, rather than someone betting because they have put you on AK, and hoping that you can’t lay it down like the previous example, since there is little chance that they can put you on AK in such a spot. Poker Pot Committed Definition
Poker hand precedence. Therefore, although you have given up on the chance to take the pot down preflop, and you might have to give up on the flop or turn, if you don’t hit anything, you have also gained the benefit of reducing the chances of being pot committed. Slow down
Other ways to avoid getting pot committed are to slow down on the turn especially when you have position.
That way if you have a good but not great hand, your opponent might have folded his worse hands than yours on the turn anyway. But if he had being trying to trap you, when you call his river bet as you will almost definitely will do, you minimize the amount you could have lost in the hand, and should he be value betting the river light or pure bluffing, you’ll earn more than you would have done should you have bet the turn and got him to fold.
So it’s a win-win situation by being appropriately cautious. Can’t escape pot commitment all the time
In no limit poker, getting into uncomfortable situations, where you are pot committed, but not so enthused about it, are unavoidable.
As you improve your hand reading and reading of opponents, the amount of times this happens, while never being eliminated, should be reduced. In addition the percentage of times where you are actually ahead in these uncomfortable situations will increase, due to your improved reading of the game. Poker Pot Committed
This will be the case, as you will have managed to escape getting pot committed with second best hands more often, and be getting to pot commitment stage at times when your opponent is actually bluffing or betting light, rather than when he has an actual great hand!
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